FDR-AX53 XAVC-S 4K - "jerkyness"

[clarkerz]

Hi,

I have just purchased a FDR-AX53 from Jessops Cardiff on the 1st April 2016. 

I am having trouble with JerkyNess when using recording movies XAVC-S 4K at both 60 and 100 mb/s. The quality is stunning but the jerkyness makes the picture annoying to watch.

All HD recordings are perfect and faultless. I have put 5 different tests here on YouTube and I'd like your thoughts on why it is "jerky". It's as though there is some sort of video processing being applied but I cannot see where to switch it of it there is. I really don't want to have take the camera back for a refund so hope this is resolvable.

Test 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHW5oP1vHYQ

Thanks

Clarkerz

[Jonnie1266]

@clarkerz

Hi,

I am expecting delivery of this camcorder on Wednesday so it is somewhat disheartening that there are issues with 4K already. I know that the older 4K models did not appear to process the footage quick enough which gave the appearance of 'jerkyness' during panning - see this thread https://community.sony.co.uk/t5/camcorders/fdr-ax-33-panning/td-p/2004676

This camera has an improved processor and fast intelligent AF so one would expect better results ?

Sadly I read this on page 139 of the user manual regarding frame rates:

Available frame rate settings

XAVC S 4K:

30p(*)/25p(**)

24p(*)

XAVC S HD:

60p(*)/50p(**)

30p(*)/25p(**)

24p(*)

AVCHD：

60i(*)/50i(**)

60p(*)/50p(**)

24p(*)/25p(**)

Descriptions of menu items

60i(*)/50i(**):

This is an ordinary setting for recording AVCHD movies.

60p(*)/50p(**):

You can record movies with a data volume twice that of 60i(*) or 50i(**)/30p(*) or 25p(**) per

unit time. When you play a movie recorded with this setting on a TV, the TV must be

compatible with 60p(*) or 50p(**) movie playback and you have to set [HDMI Resolution] to

1080p.

30p(*):

It is recommended that you use a tripod when recording movies with this setting.

24p(*)/25p(**):

You can record movies which provide an atmosphere closer to that of film images with this

setting. It is recommended that you record movies with this setting using a tripod.

Please note the section in red, as the only frame rate for 4K available is 25p (for a UK model) it would appear Sony recommend using a tripod ? If I am right then this is not great. Sure, they have got full HD sorted but 4K seems a little more challenging.

Personally I hope you can recover the issue through the camera settings, the footage does look good. I have purchased two of the following - SanDisk Extreme PRO 64GB SDXC UHS-I/U3 Memory Cards up to 95MB/s - which is the least that the user manual recommends for 4K 100Mb/s

It might be worth switching off the dual record function, that is if you have it enabled during 4K recording ?

Please let us know if you sort this out - sorry I cannot help any further

Regards

[Jonnie1266]

@clarkerz

Hi,

Did you resolve the "jerkyness" issue ?

I have my AX53 now and I am very happy with the results. I must say that I updated the software here

before I first used it. This update would not have been available to you at the time you posted this thread.

I recorded at 4K XAVC S 60MB/s and played from the camera through the television, I think it is brilliant !

I have reviewed the camera on this and Amazon web site.

Regards

[Gope57]

Jonnie, Which Memory Card do you use for your AX53?

So it works in 4K

[Jonnie1266]

@Gope57

Hi,

Sorry for the late reply, I have had trouble getting my account working !

Here is a link to the memory card that I have used: SanDisk

[Ljoms12345]

As long as it is 25 P you wont be able to resolve it.  I dont use 4K when i am moving/panning and the result is more than good enough for my eye:) 

[CSABA53]

Hi,

I'm very disapponinted in the AX53.

I was looking forward to this model because of the promising huge marketing.

AX53 focus/lock-on AF FUZZY (after updated 1.01 software)

https://youtu.be/RWwCcBYmZnI

AX53 JERKY movements in 4K despite strong SteadyShot

 https://youtu.be/LacwGaAFbPE

AX 53 while panning FUZZY and CHOPPY images.

https://youtu.be/uKpZl6rGWl8

These are only part of the BASIC DEFECTS... (To be continued)

Nobody can help because new repair software is not yet.

I'm a practised user working as a cameraman/director.

I worked for 3 years with the former SONY model HDR PJ740VR.

Csaba

Hungary

[Jonnie1266]

@CSABA53

Hi,

I appreciate your work as a cameraman. I am in no way a professional but I think the AX53 is brilliant. I am sure if it is as bad as you say I would notice these issues also ? Just a thought but have you wondered if your camera is working properly ? It may have a fault ?

Regards

[CSABA53]

Hi,

You saw the tests, didn't you?

Problems need correcting with a new software update!

Otherwise, this model WILL BE great.

The sooner SONY realize its error, the better.

Csaba

Hungary

[LennonMac]

I have just learned that if you mount the FDR-AX53 on a Tripod you cant turn on the Boss system Stabilisation and if you zoom while on the Tripod the footage is very Shaky,so i cant use a Tripod.