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sata raid control

reaper — Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:35:10 GMT

hi

i want and need to install another hard drive inside my pc but how am i meant to know what controllers i have in my pc ect....

does anyone know what they are normally in vaio's

what hard drive is installed already ?

normally pc's are meant to have four of these connections so i have read ....... but i'm not to sure what connects to them

can someone plz
give me some info on this matter

thanks regards ben

Re: sata raid control

kee-lo_ — Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:51:41 GMT

VAIOs use IEDE.
You can get a SATA PCI card quite cheap if needs be.

Re: sata raid control

reaper — Wed, 09 Jun 2004 08:29:38 GMT

yo kee-lo can you explain what the pci card consist of plz

like will i just beable to connect a hard drive to it or will it make my other controllers compatible with sata drives

thanks
ben

Re: sata raid control

kee-lo_ — Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:55:03 GMT

Ben,

The PCI card is like your soundcard, but instead of sound it has SATA sockets, so you can plug in your hard disks. Of course these sockets are internal, so it's like plugging in a hard disk.

Re: sata raid control

reaper — Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:06:36 GMT

cool thanks for your help

Re: sata raid control

VAIOneer — Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:07:10 GMT

Most PCs have 2 IDE sockets on the motherboard.Each is capable of handling 2 IDE devices, so you should be able to connect upto 4 devices (eg. 4 hard drives).Now, if you have a hard drive and a CD, then that gives you the option to only atach 2 more devices (HDD or CD drives).One way to check is to open up and see what is attached to each cable, as each cable has 3 connectors;1 on teh motherboard, one to each device.Some motherboards will have 4 IDE connectors on the motherboard, but these generally apply to slightly higher spec motherboards, and are often couple with onboard RAID controllers (RAID 0, 1 & 0+1).As for SATA - if your motherboard does not support it, then as Kee-Lo said, your best option is to purchase one (it'll come in PCI format) and slot into a white/cream slot on your motherboard.Any other questions, let me know.

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Re: sata raid control

reaper — Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:05:02 GMT

hi thanks for all your help vaioneer

i have two drive's dvd rom dvd-/+rw drive and one hard drive

which all came preinstalled so i took it that there is four connections in my vaio and is enough room for another hard drive

and i have chosen to purchuse a western digital ata100 int ide hdd 7200rpm

can someone give me some feed back on this item before i decide to buy it

and thanks again for all your help
regards ben

Re: sata raid control

kee-lo_ — Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:16:30 GMT

What size is the hard disk.

ATA100 should be prefect.

Re: sata raid control

reaper — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:34:41 GMT

hi kee-lo and vaioneer

i have got the hard drive and i opened my pc to install it it all seems pretty simple,,, its all new to me thou i have only been using a pc for around 8 - 9 months....

anyway the problem i seem to encounter is this

i have to install the new hard drive that i got onto a different dma controller to the one that is already installed and by just looking at it the only way i can do this is if i remove one of my dvd drives

is this true ........
the hard drive that is already installed is running on p7 and p6 is the one that is free and i take it that these are both on the same controller.......

if so i need to unistall my dvd rom drive (hoping the other drive plays dvd roms ????) dvd +/- rw

do i unistall it on my pc first or take it out of my pc then umistall it

can some one plz give me some info on this matter

thanks again for all your help
regards ben

Re: sata raid control

reaper — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:13:45 GMT

yes it is the perfect size

Re: sata raid control

kee-lo_ — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:18:33 GMT

Re: sata raid control

reaper — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:06:51 GMT

yo kee-lo

did i explain it a bit strange or you just dont know ??????

i will say it again anyway

in my pc the harddrive is connected using two types of wire one that is really thin and wide and then the other is just like normal wires but in a little bunch of about four

both of these wires have two connections on them p7 is the one that it is using along with one of the ones on the really thin wire
so i think i have two take out one of my dvd drives to put my hard drive onto a different dma channel

i just need some back up to confirm this from you peeps
:smileygrin: before i do anything which is too crazy

regards ben

Re: sata raid control

kee-lo_ — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 14:14:28 GMT

Hi Ben

You told be yesterday you have 2 optical drives and one hard disk. That should leave one space free. You don't need to remove anything.

The long thin thing is an IDE cable
The thing with 4 wires is the power cable.

Re: sata raid control

reaper — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:53:53 GMT

hi kee-lo

yeah i know there is one space for a harddrive and i have installed it into there ,,,, i took my dvd rom out and then was going to put the hard drive there but it doesnt stay there i need to have like a little cd drive holder or something.....

i needed to put it on a different controller thou

i have to have it set up so that my a/v drive isnt on the same controller as my system drive otherwise i wont get proper real time

i will have to wait for that drive now and use my new one for real time export to disk

thanks again for all your help
regards ben

Re: sata raid control

VAIOneer — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:22:16 GMT

I'm a little confused.have you got 1 HDD and 1 DVD drive or 2 DVD drives?Also, as Kee-Lo said, the flat wire is the data cable (grey with 1red wire on the side) and the 4wire cable is the power cable (1 red, 2 blacks and 1 orange or yellow).The only thing you may need to set is the new HDD to slave (by moving a jumper).Let us know how you get on

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Re: sata raid control

kee-lo_ — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:27:24 GMT

I'm a little confused.

Not very straight forward is it Sam?

Re: sata raid control

reaper — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:51:35 GMT

yo
i dont know how to put it as a slave as you said this is what i ended up doing

i installed the harddrive next to the one that is installed using the power cable p6 (one that was free)

and the grey wire (with no red wire) i didnt see one anyway

had a connection under it just like the power one did also the only differece in the two data conector was the free one was grey instead of black (main conecter)

it all went perfect started my machine up had NO new hard ware appear

i went to computer management and it was there waiting to be allocated so i called it disk one ect ntfs quik format

and it is all working fine now all i need to know is about this slave stuff and just to make sure here these two hard drives that are now installed on my system are both on the same dma channel or whatever it is called ..............i need to confirm this so i know what the har drive will be used for

thanks again for all your help
regards ben

Re: sata raid control

reaper — Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:02:02 GMT

yo vaioneer i forgot to tell you yes i have two drives a dvd -/+rw
and a dvd rom i am right in thinking that i would need to remove one of these to install a har drive on a different dma channel ???????????

regards ben

Re: sata raid control

reaper — Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:21:51 GMT

right i sust it now yes i do need to unistall one on my drives

but i still dont know about this slave stuff and i need to set it to slave according to rtx manual

what is this jumper you mentioned ???????

regards ben

Re: sata raid control

kee-lo_ — Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:32:47 GMT

The jumper settings for slave are printed on the hard disk or in the manual provided.