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A1 TV not showing HDR logo on YouTube

Cablesman — Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:19:24 GMT

So why when I access 4K HDR videos on YouTube, doesn’t the HDR logo come on under picture settings? It does when I use the Netflix app

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Kuschelmonschter — Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:06:10 GMT

YouTube HDR is still not supported by any Sony ATV. Your TV only plays the SDR streams.

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Cablesman — Sat, 13 Jan 2018 15:13:12 GMT

Wow. Thx. That’s absolutely disgusting from Sony. Their flagship tv eh?

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Kuschelmonschter — Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:31:39 GMT

Sony Android TV is disgusting from front to back, see my review.

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Cablesman — Sat, 13 Jan 2018 17:31:53 GMT

Read it! Wow just wow. Kudos my friend

yet Still. It’s a great pic on the ATV yes?

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Kuschelmonschter — Sat, 13 Jan 2018 17:35:16 GMT

yet Still. It’s a great pic on the ATV yes?

Other brands can do that too. Plus you get working integrated tuner and judder-free Amazon Video.

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stormyuk — Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:01:21 GMT

Yeh Sony seem very lathargic to sort anything out on these TVs. With respect to HDR Youtube, last time I asked, they blamed Google.

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Jecht_Sin — Sun, 14 Jan 2018 09:16:10 GMT

@stormyuk wrote:
Yeh Sony seem very lathargic to sort anything out on these TVs. With respect to HDR Youtube, last time I asked, they blamed Google.

Because you haven't seen the ballet between Sony and Amazon for the messy Amazon Video (it's Amazon's fault in this case). They all blamed each others. I have opened a call with Amazon for it, and eventually, three weeks after I was told it was Sony's fault, I received an email from Amazon support saying that the issue has been fixed, and that Sony just needs to add the new app in the next firmware update. So technically the ball is in Sony's hands, now. But there should be a firmware update in February for the Dolby Vision support in the TVs with X1 Extreme processor. So I imagine it will be added there at least for all Android 7.0 televisions.

Regarding YouTube.. The app does show some HDR videos in HDR, as long as they are not in VP9.2 format. And the HDR videos downloaded from YouTube (by any mean) don't play as HDR in Sony's Video or other apps (like Kodi). So it is totatally Sony/Mediatek's fault. The VP9.2 codecs are faulty.

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stormyuk — Sun, 14 Jan 2018 14:51:02 GMT

Most people want to fire up Youtube and play them not have to go around the houses like you do

Heh with Sony blaming Google I doubt that will ever be fixed even though like you seem to suggest it shouldn't be that difficult.

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Kuschelmonschter — Tue, 16 Jan 2018 15:33:04 GMT

I received an email from Amazon support saying that the issue has been fixed, and that Sony just needs to add the new app in the next firmware update. So technically the ball is in Sony's hands, now. But there should be a firmware update in February for the Dolby Vision support in the TVs with X1 Extreme processor.

Sony released the DV FW in the U.S. today. No word about Amazon Video fixes though...

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Jecht_Sin — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 07:55:44 GMT

@Kuschelmonschter wrote:
Sony released the DV FW in the U.S. today. No word about Amazon Video fixes though...

What? The app hasn't even been updated? Not that I can really be bothered any more. Prime Video just plays fast and beautifully on my ATV 4K...

Slightly out of sync (30-50 ms?) audio apart, sure! But eventually I could fix it manually from the AVR.

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Kuschelmonschter — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 07:58:36 GMT

Sony screwed the DV update up badly. It only works for some stock apps like Netflix and Amazon Video, but not for HDMI, like for example Apple TV 4K or Ultra HD BD players.

Total screwjob... again...

This company just can't be trusted.

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stormyuk — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 08:14:33 GMT

@Jecht_Sin wrote:
@Kuschelmonschter wrote:
Sony released the DV FW in the U.S. today. No word about Amazon Video fixes though...
What? The app hasn't even been updated? Not that I can really be bothered any more. Prime Video just plays fast and beautifully on my ATV 4K...

Slightly out of sync (30-50 ms?) audio apart, sure! But eventually I could fix it manually from the AVR.

Mine will be fine sometimes and a judder fest at others, no idea why. Usually stopping and restarting the stream clears it up for me. Don't have any other streaming issues, have a fast FTTH connection and the TV is hardwired.

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Jecht_Sin — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:08:28 GMT

@stormyuk wrote:
Mine will be fine sometimes and a judder fest at others, no idea why. Usually stopping and restarting the stream clears it up for me. Don't have any other streaming issues, have a fast FTTH connection and the TV is hardwired.

Yeah, same scenario here. Skipping backward and then forward helps (on the app on TV). After having first launched it the audio is a total mess. It stutters heavily every few seconds. No matter if playing via internal speakers or via AVR. Same after a reset to factory settings.

@Kuschelmonschter wrote:
Sony screwed the DV update up badly. It only works for some stock apps like Netflix and Amazon Video, but not for HDMI, like for example Apple TV 4K or Ultra HD BD players.

You must be joking... I suppose it works with Sony UHD BD players? Or not even that? When I'll ever upgrade to Oled (or what real LED system will be in the market at the time) I'll kiss goodbye to Sony.

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Kuschelmonschter — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:17:44 GMT

I suppose it works with Sony UHD BD players?

Not at the current time anyway. New Sony UHD BD players will get a FW update featuring DV later this year. We know what that means... And it is not yet clear whether it will work with current Sony ATVs or whether it requires a new MediaTek SoC with DV built in to get it working over HDMI.

Sony did not comment yet, see article on FlatpanelsHD. I can already smell the next screwjob. Pretty good start into the new year.

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stormyuk — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:53:41 GMT

@Kuschelmonschter wrote:
Sony screwed the DV update up badly. It only works for some stock apps like Netflix and Amazon Video, but not for HDMI, like for example Apple TV 4K or Ultra HD BD players.

Total screwjob... again...

This company just can't be trusted.

I wonder if its down to the mediatek thing again, it seems unless its forced to display HDR it can just not detect signals properly. No HDR Youtube (unless you download the file and play it in an another app), no HLG working with iPlayer. Now no DV for those that support it with external devices (or apps which rely on autodetect?). What a mess.

I should be suprised my PS4 Pro HDR works!

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Kuschelmonschter — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:48:45 GMT

I wonder if its down to the mediatek thing again, it seems unless its forced to display HDR it can just not detect signals properly.

Thing is that Sony currently uses a MediaTek SoC which does not support DV. Sony instead implemented DV in their image processor. And this probably only works for built-in apps, but not for HDMI. Only newer MediaTek SoCs support DV directly. Just speculating though whether this can be the cause. Dunno how all this stuff has to work together. YouTube HDR is indeed another story. HDR is just a total mess...

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kinggo01 — Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:41:46 GMT

The sooner we get those long time promised 10000 nits TVs the better since then there will be no need for this DV/HDR tone mapping nonsens.